Daily Recap 4/10/13: Where's the President's Grandfather? President Obama Born In Topeka Ks.
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Two more pictures added today of the President's ancestors.
45. is a picture of his great great grandfather Delbert Eugene Hardy in the apple orchard on the home place near Haxtun Colorado. He died in 1933. I estimate this was taken in the mid 1920's My parents Rev and Tracy and Florence Hardy were married in 1922 and Mom asked for a camera for her birthday and she took many pictures over her life and if film could still be bought for it, would still be doing it. So would say, mid 1920's
46 The last reunion of the 5 siblings seated with my Mother, President Obama Great Grandmother is the smaller woman, Helen ( Hardy ) Pope with the pure white hair in the middle. Others are named on the flckr site. At this point, ( without checking) all their husbands had gone onto Heaven.Soon after over the next decade+ the rest followed. The last to Pass over was His Great Aunt Pearl ( Hardy ) Vallier. I never heard anything bad about any of them and I knew them all. But I never got to know most of my cousins, living in Kansas and being the youngest of their children. And knew very few or have had any relationship with second or third cousins, except brief encounters. The whole cover up and subterfuge over the assumption of two men using the same name, Stanley Dunham has had far more reaching eaffects on this family than many may realize when its being done by loved ones whom I've away known to be basically decent and honest people..It caused 'secrets' which have been very harmful. and good people drawn into lying.
As I delved into this my self, I realized there have been deep seated questions about all this my whole life and the lack of closure of what occurred on the banks of the Kansas river with three dead is probably more Case than one realises. One needs to have closure when horrible things happen and Topeka HS never dealt with this as they should have. Guess there was fear of reprisal from Westboro Baptist church as they might have shown up and cause hatreds to be spewed out as they had been before death .
PROPHETIC SCRIPTURES
For non Christians ponder the wisdom or go to the next section.
Today the Bible opened to day to Hebrews Chapter 11
Verse 1 "Now faith is the substance of things oped for, the evidence of things not seen"
Very prophetic for what the day brought that was cold and rainy.
PRESIDENT OBAMA BORN IN TOPEKA KS
I had not gotten to my e mail yesterday and missed the one from Lt Zullo.
He did the same brief cursory check on line that I did before I started sharing my eye witness account on line last 7/26/12 and found a listings for Dan and Marilyn Pope about the right ages in California.
The age for Marilyn is a little too young and said they were alive in 1992 and as far as he was concerned they are now.
He also checked the 1940 US Census which I had referred him to and said Dan Pope could not be Stanley's Dad as he was going by the info of her being born in 1942. when the records in Topeka show age 15 which would be 1945 and the truth.
I was gravely disappointed as it seems again the Truth does not matter at all in all of this.
Does he think we didn't go through all this and we tried to find Dan and Marilyn back in 2008 at the very town he gave me, then.
The truth is the president was born in the USA and someone created the Hawaii birth records either soon after birth or during the campaign and its not the real one. nor is the one in Kenya. This is harmful to the whole nation to keep going over this.
Either he lied and used fake id's and ssn's and is guilty of current crimes and should be referred to Congress to deal with on censorship or impeachment or just say we elected him and he's not going away and Congress needs to do their job and counter any bad laws or executive orders he comse up with and go forward for the good of all.
All this is riling some people up that hate him for many reasons and I'm disppoirnted in many things occurring myself. But we don't need something to happen to him and this nation erupt in to violence over half truth and lies and a birther movement that has no basis for his not being eligible.. unless there is someting on the Kansas birth certificate?
Are there other issues, yes and I applaud Orly Taitz for covering all bases on this and addressing the alleged criminal actions, even though she is riling against me for not coming forth with the truth after she spent so much time on the eligibliity factors? Main media just wasn't covering this. Thy knew and didn't ask the president when they had the info. I didn't know, then, and then I tried to get her attention a long time ago as going public was not easy and its not now. . She has done a lot of work and kept at it. Anything one finds, please send her a copy. I wish all of those doing serious filings, etc. would support each other more. We're as bad as Congress.
But INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. We can't lose what America stands for, our individual rights to fairness and justice, even though I and my family have been and are being denied them right now. and many others.by an international cabal of wealthy elite who have been able to take control of our money and our rights and even possibly our president?.
The closer I get; the more opposition occurs? Must be getting close? Or is it the pictures on flickr Linda Joy Adams?
TWO STANLEY DUNHAMS.
1 The real one born in 1918 and buried in Kansas in 1979? and very well may have gone into the military in 1942 as listed and its possible also had a daughter named Stanley Ann in 1942 and the picture in wikidedia does not look like the one I knew, the president's mother. Nor like the one in the early picture shown so often and is on line with young Barry Obama Jr. Take a real close look.
2. Daniel Wayne Pope born 1930 or 31 and took the id of Stanley Dunham and went off to war and married and had a daughter Stanley Ann in late 1945. and was career military and often away somewhere and always rather hush hush with Stanley Ann left with her mother Marilyn or "Tut" and is known to the world as
Madelyn.According to a face book Friend who sent me some info today, listed as dying in 1992 on a Memorial plaque in Hawaii but under the name he served under Stanley Armour Dunham.
SOURCES OF INFO
I have treid to carefully share in these daily recaps where the info came from.
There is no question that Stanley Ann Dunham ( Pope) gave birth to President Obama in Topeka Kansas at Forbes air force base 8/4/1961 and all the other info I'm witness to and that her Dad was Daniel Wayne Pope but went by the name Dunham. These are facts and the volumes of record all over Topeka and witnesses are there. I'm still sorting through what I have and its about time some of my extended family start talking and share what they know. Unfortunately many didn't know anything but what got shared later on about Hawaii, the fake bio story. "Tut"saw to that.
My Aunt Helen blamed Marilyn "Tut" for an estrangement from most of the family and Dan 'being away"; and a possible separation was mentioned once. Most didn't get to know Ann very well as she was in Mercer Island and wherever else the military sent Dan as Stanley? Stanley Ann didn't know how to contact her Dad either.as the Kansas Authorities verified all this. WHY WOULDN'T A DAUGHTER KNOW HOW TO REACH HER DAD? Just where was he? HUSH, HUSH?
So all of this is a distraction from the issues of who is in the White house and did he know and lie and commit any criminal acts in recent enough time that he could face criminal charges?
Who his Daddy is or what his grandfather did is really not material to that. We are not saved or fall by our ancestors, in this society. Its what we , ourselves do.
Unlike most of you, I didn't start out with all this false and fake bio floating around. I started with what I knew and found out about all the 'garbage' out there later as it was astounding that everyone seemed to be following a lie the President claimed he 'wove' from what he'd been told, yet they were calling him a liar at the same time.
Its amazing that all those who say he is a liar are so eager to believe what he says about his origins.because he said so?
What happened in Liberal Ks back in 1943 or 1944?
In 1943 Dan Pope is in the family picture posted online on flickr Linda Joy Admas with his family. The info for that is the back of the photo. and it seems accurate due to the ages as they appear. So at age 14? Dan Pope goes off to war as Stanley Dunham,
What I know so far, and many out there will surely correct me who know better of the details.
According to the records on line. the real Stanley Dunham went to WWII in 1942 and was in service 2 years? gettng out in 1944? But instead the other Stanley Dunham, Dan Pope 'reinlists'
or returned from leave?
And off to war he goes and serves for 20 years.+/ ??
How did he do this?
In the Fall of 1963, Aunt Helen and Uncle Millard Dell Pope stop by my parents home in Manhattan Ks where I was attending K State University and engaged to be married in 1/64.
We moved there in the Summer of 1963.
They are the great grandparents of President Obama and the parents of Dan Pope whom Aunt Helen told my mother he had hit his Principal at age 10. So the two bios out there of two men are really jumbled.
Aunt Helen is in the Kitchen helping Mom do the dishes when this conversation took place and I was standing in the Dining room listening. She said Dan had not been the best behaved child. In those days, very smart kids and creative ones were not often recognized for being such.
So one summer he goes to work in a furniture store in Liberal Kansas for the summer.
Mystery? Is Stanley Dunham a relative of my Uncle Millard Pope? How would he have a job 200 miles from home and a place to stay?
Mom had asked her point blank how the name Dunham had gotten on all Stanley Ann's papers?
Aunt Helen said Dan stole Stanley Dunham's wallet and took off for the war. and in the Fall he didn't come back home for school and they later learned what he had done, but didn't go get him either. What would the military have done with a 14 year old that had gotten in and was serving? The real Stanley Dunham had already gone through boot camp and was in.? So Dan is really in the war?! And reports state he served with General Patton if those are true?
BUT : ANOTHER VERSION IS: and since the subtrefuge went on for a life time? there was no theft. Dan went back in with Stanley Armour Dunham knowing all about it?
Whatever happened the switch was made and we are here 70 years later trying to unravel it in the middle of unraveling who is in the white house?
Where is Daniel Pope
In 2008 we went through this trying to locate him. His sisters who died since still list him being alive in their obituaries and Lois Wisdom lists Marilyn alive., yet we know "Tut" died in 2008 in Hawaii? Although there are some doubters on this.
2 addresses were located by Lt Zullo in two towns. We had already known of California as its the only address the family has had for years, I susupected some kind of a 'maildrop.'.Modesto has sufaced since last years online. The one address is a house sold in 2011 The other is in foreclosure and the picture on line at Google doesn't seem to be a place an elderly woman is living at.
The more recent info lists Marilyn but not Dan which would indicate he had died.and 1992 seems plausible to me, the date for Stanley Dunham aka Dan Pope.
When I pulled up the second address, I got a site showing a fake id for another person and ssn, etc and a request for me to purchase identity fraud help.Name is not Dan Pope. But it does give pause!
what came up for the address. The van parked on the street in the picture has a phone number on it and its a non working number, too.
Also, I don't recognize the names of the relatives listed on Intellus and the other search sites Maybe they are some other second, third or even fourth cousins, etc.( I didn't pay for the total info.) If you have a subscription please help out and share what you learn. If he is alive and well, Wonderful! Does the President know?
One can't always rely on these people search sites as I have relatives I know who are deceased and every year they becomee a year older, well over 100. Where do they get their info , any way?If any one has seen Dan and Marilyn Pope an 80 year old couple, please share the info. and have them contact me. I have a lot of questions and so does everyone else. I'm pretty sure they are both deceased in 1992 and in 2008. By the way, Marilyn has to be older then 76, as she would have been a little young to have had Stanley Ann in 1945. at age 8?
So two Stanley Ann Dunham's? and two Stanley Armour Dunhams's and a pact to allow the two bios to be convoluted for 70 years? Is this getting a little absurd or what? But truth is sometimes stranger than fiction is the old saying.
And don't forget one fact that would be on record in Topeka Ks. When the authorities contacted the real Stanley Dunham in Liberal Kansas ( according to my Aunt Helen) he knew exactly who had his wallet and id and where the Popes lived in Holyoke Colorado.
How many who have had a wallet stolen know who took it and where their parents are?
KANSAS HELP NEEDED
Now can we get someone in Kansas to please check for the records and witnesses on the birth?
And I need to get some claims filed to get some money back to pay for medical care.
I had no idea last 7/26/12 that within a few weeks someone at some media outlet,etc wouldn;t have immediately searched through their expensive search engines they can afford to buy and find the records and let the world know and it would all be over with. and the people would have had all the info to make a ballot decision and vote and I don't hhink the truth would have cost Pres Obama a reelection unless there are some real recent crimes to account for.
But I'm not in this for the politics, Its a journey for truth and Justice and there are still three dead from 52 years ago with no justice to date.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES ARTICLE III section 2 ( phrase by phrase analysis)
" to all cases affecting Ambassadors" The US Supreme Court has the final judicial say on any issue involving our diplomats over seas. We are not under the jursidiction of other nations' courts. in the matters.
TOMORROW: back to the fmaily records fr more info. Linda Joy Adams 4/10/13
The Journey for Truth took a big detour today.
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