Daily Recap 4/21/13: Response to Donna, The Tea Party Nation: Persident Obama Born In Topeka Ks

Daily Recap 4/21/13: Response to Donna, The Tea Party Nation : President Obama Born In Topeka Ks
Flickr: Your Photostream New Pics posted of President Obama's ancestry with Topeka Pics emphasized.

Lots of new info online today. Geir Smith form Before Its News went on Topix a forum out of Topeka ks, about finding info on the President's Dad. I followed with some more info asking for anyone who might remember something to contact me, and to check themselves for records; newspaper archives, Capper Jr HS , Boswell  Jr HS and Topeka Ks HS newspapers they might still have around from the years when all this took place as has been detailed before.
So emphasis will be on some records that might help jog memories. Its not easy remembering back what happened 52 years ago. And President Obama is a third cousin and after the few months of involvement with his birth, I lad little contact over the years as he lived far away and there was some estrangement with that part of the family among those I had more association with.
Part of the problem was that there had been a decision to not involve me with all the intricate details of what was occurring around President Obama's birth, but I was involved in other ways.  It was impossible not to have some involvement as a 15- 16 year old. The birth itself and teenage girl getting pregnant was not something new to me, as it had happened to others I knew at school and although never talked about, I was aware of it and observed what it meant in their lives.
I'd also seen the hatred and near physical attack on the President of the Pep club as she had hid her pregnancy well with regular clothes and it wasn't until she gave birth anyone knew she had been married and the birth announcement was in the paper. I had been in the stall in the girls bathroom and heard them 'mob' around her in a rage and stepped out and it was enough for a witness to be present for them to back off.
 There was an element of viciousness among some of those in that city that was founded in something very evil.
 Most were very nice people just as they are in most places I've lived.
As I recall it was about the time, the three were murdered in the Kansas River and the attack on the Stanley Ann pregnant with the President. She was a senior and this must have happened just before the attack on Pres Obama's parents. as all of us were dressed in our Pep Cub uniforms so had to be before Basketball season was over.
I'd just recalled this incident today, and will try to firm up who this was. Its difficult as I lost  my '61 and '63 yearbooks years ago when a house was vandalised and most of the pictures are from my mother's records, and she had kept the '62 year book. Copies  are on line but the print is so small as they want us to buy them.
             FOLKS THERE ARE THREE MURDERS TO SOLVE FORM 3/61 WITH BODIES NOT WASHED UP UNTIL BEFORE 6/62. AND A NEWS BLACK OUT AND COVER UP And WHY?

                           RESPONSE TO DONNA AT THE TEA PARTY NATION
Last year I began a long discussion on The Tea Part nation with Donna, whom, pretty sure its her, left a comment on Orly Taitz's website, Ms Taitz will not post from me, and Tea Party Nation has banned me a long time ago after Donna and I had begun to unravel some basic info. Most sites have allowed me to post as I do try to relate it to the articles commented on. I never doubt one who say they saw or heard something, I do try and analyze just what was seen and heard and the source. Not unlike one would do in conducting any kind of serious investigation as that's what this really is. A journey for the Truth and justice to be done wherever it leads.
And it always sees to lead back to Topeka Ks where it all began, or at least to Kansas where my first cousin Dan Pope took Stanley Dunham's ID and went right into WWII and his parents , my Aunt Helen ( Hardy) Pope and Uncle Millard Pope could not get him back out after searching for him for several months when he had not come back for school in the Fall after going to work on a summer job in Liberal, Ks as at a furniture store. Still do not know if the Dunhams were relatives of Uncle Millard Pope. If someone has the subscription to ancestry .com, maybe they could check his genealogy for a Dunham connection. and let us all know.
But often those sites only contain what others have posted or not posted., etc.
Dan Pope is listed with his parents n the 1940 Census records for Holyoke Colorado.

What did Donna say:
She said she remembered seeing some things on TV form the era and she was with her mother who also saw them too and they commented on them.
She's the one that saw Hillary Rodham (Clinton) and Stanley Ann   asked to debate on CBS? about political philosophy during the 1960 campaign and she had said she had run away from home and someone had let her borrow a coat as it was cold outside to be interviewed.
 In that interview she spoke of the Little Red Church where she grew up. She was for JFK and Hillary for Nixon. They would have been 13 and 14 at the time.
Ann didn't seem to know how to get hold of her Dad and as I recall one of the APO addresses for military used to be New York City. and She had graduated form Capper Jr HS in 6/60
Before 11/60,' she was back in Topeka ks and her boyfriend forced off the football team due to their interracial relationship toward the end of football season. You will not find him with the Football team pictures in the 1961 year book. I think he's with te Boys Glee club picture but the names are too small for me to make out and it won;'t let one enlarge on line to really see it. Its as if he never existed, yet he was a star football player and had a wonderful singing voice. He should be in the 1960 one, but as a sophomore, ( we had a three year highschool0 he;'d be with the Junior varsity team and unknown  what else, maybe a homeroom picture,etc.
There should be school newspapers, the Tower available in an archive somewhere. unless the fire at Topeka HS got into those somehow. But supposedly it was put out before any records were destroyed a couple of years ago.
That's what really got me into trying to get all the birther groups to try and get to Topeka Ks. There were two fires, one, at an old house were medical records from Stormont Vail were kept and I think that's where Ann  was  when the authorities got involved trying to find some paternal relatives to take charge of a 15 year old pregnant girl and they couldn't locate her parents. That led them to verify, from the real Stanley Dunham that he wasn't the Father of her, but knew who had taken his ID and where to locate her grandparents in Colorado and that led back to Topeka ks.
Always LEADS BACK TO TOPEKA
 I actually vaguely remember seeing this debate but don't recall any details, etc.  Maybe I recognized Ann from when I'd met her briefly at her piano teachers when she first arrived in Topeka Ks in summer of 1958. Just can';t recall.
Today, Donna left the comment with Orly Taitz about the phrase ( apparently from Pres Obama's book) about  how she was going over the river to marry her black Prince.
Of course everyone assumed it was Obama Sr and maybe the president was told or thought it was, too. There is no evidence he's ever been told, even to this date or shown  any of my e mails to the White House or campaign last year. I still send the white house a copy of this daily recap. 
Its one of my gravest concerns that we have someone in the white house and in charge of so much, who may  be being lied to by those around him and makes me wonder what else is he not being told ? That concerns much more that who he is or where he was born? I just don't understand how any one can be a good leader ( whatever their politics) and not have advisers around them who give honest opinions and share the facts with the leader. Is it possible he is being told what is in a bill and it isn't when he signs it? Is that's why sometimes his statements  in support of  a bill, seem to be OK and yet the bill itself does not do that or his executive order  isn't what he says is suppose to happen?
Case in point on agencies setting up contract compliance complaint offices where the  public could complain and give evidence of wrong doing by govt contractors when they are harmed by their actions. I spent three years filing complaints and some inside Initially thought this was what was going to be done and was a good thing to have happen. Soon it turned into an EEO office for employees of the govt contractors which are supposed to go directly to the EEOC or their state human rights offices after whatever internal process they had inside their respective companies, Etc. We already had a process for EEO inside contractors, in place. Something  went awry and HHS never set one  up nor did SSA.
Filing a complaint with Global Compliance  a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs is not the same as filing a formal Civil rights case and complaint with  a real federal agency.  Initially L D had wrote that to file against Affiliated computer Services on Lynn Blodgett it had to be non facilitation of the case nd not a beef about the merits. (EXACTLY MY COMPLAINT!)  I wanted ACS to obey the judges and they are not doing so, in fact hiding the files and judges orders from Federal Workers Comp Federal employees, thus putting  my life and livelihood and my family's at risk.
So I'm well aware that something is badly wrong  in the White House. A real disconnect between what is said is going to happen and what does happen.
Either the President  is a liar and a big one, or he's being lied to and handled and is a puppet of some powerful puppet masters who have people around him lying and causing deadly outcomes.
My Dad always said to me: A good leader is one whom one  never hears from much and everything is running smoothly. A good leader picks good advisers and listens to them. One has to know what a good advisor is first. That's one who feels secure  enough in their person to speak freeely about things and discuss things if questioned about what is meant. That's a trusted adviser, as explained to me from a very young age.  Its unfortunate he never had time with my Dad and was told that.  If that be the over all problem.

Donna also remembered seeing on TV Ann being interviewed in Hawaii and she made the comment she was leaving  the USA and her Son was going to be president. I have never seen that clip. I don't know who Donna really is. For all I know she is some one much closer to all this and doesn't want to use her real name which is OK with me.
 Accepting the premise that she is speaking from accurate memory, what does this mean: I am speculating here after almost 10 months on a real journey for truth and answers to questions that have been part of me  for 52 years and longer for me personally.
Was a deal struck in 1962 to allow the cover up as it involved other national security  matters or some kind of experiments going on in psyops warfare, etc at Menningers for the govt which they were part of. and in exchange some secret deal made at the highest levels for all the secret groups that her Son would become president some day? That's a far stretch one might think?
But it was in 1953, My Great Uncle Charley Hunt ( VP Dick Cheney's grandfather) was the one that said that in 1948 it had been decided that  his great nephew born of his sister who had married a man from Poland whom she met while attending the Sorbonne in Paris and died in childbirth was going to be Pope. And in 1978, he became Pope John Pal II. There is a high elite in this world that are in my greater extended family on both sides (Hunt's are my mother's family , the Oil Men)  who plan and plat history decades ahead of time. Its been going on for all of history it seems. Those who gain power want to keep it and too often the  wealth that comes with it. VP Cheney's mother's maiden name was Hunt, as Dickey  was her first husband's; name  source Her Dad. and I saw all the pictures he had in his little room. I have shared this in one of my daily recaps.
This is not to say that many Roman catholics don't have great Faith and will surely be with us in Heaven in spite of some of the intrigues and politics that come with any large institution, including one the largest in the world , their Church. with headquarters in the Vatican.
The problem sometimes, is if one has been promised the world and not groomed for the leadership position with all the ethics and moral teachings one should have to do good for humanity; then one can be like too many sons of kings; not have the moral foundation needed to be a gogod leader
Its why we have a different form of govt, where the people are to elect one who has those qualities any way and not because they inherited the position or was promised it years ahead of time. .
 I can't say what happened as I'm not an eye witness, But of all the info out there is true about ssn's being used, etc then something went badly wrong in the whole scenario even if there was a 'deal' to let him be the first President of color.
All this is speculation and no proof. But Donna seems so certain of this, I wonder if she really knows more and is not willing to share it. Wish she would

 An  eyewitness  who is  also a  family member  naturally has a  love for the person and has to face real issues of what is the right thing to do. All I can do is search for the truth and follow it wherever it leads. Those like me get caught in the middle and barely survive, some don't.  Its leading to the same individuals causing  us harm and seeming to be able to control what the President of the USA does, when Congress should be the closest to doing that for him For us, its the Constitution that is to protect us and those who said they would; see it does. .

.As for the phrase of marrying a black prince over the water. It seems that Ann would say that and never explain what it meant. Maybe she couldn't speak of the horrible thing that happened back in Topeka Ks when her boyfriend was murdered in the evil attack and the one thing she had from all this was her son, Barry.
When those who  degrade her online and post pictures saying its her and she was not built like that, it just makes me wnat to get online and explain and on 7/26/12 I finally did. on my own sites as no one else wanted to know the truth.
Maybe she was bound to secrecy to never tell under some kind of 'deal.' Pretty sick one if that is true, in my opinion..
I've loved singing the old spirituals and to me I have no problem understanding the meaning in light of what I know. So my interpretation is: River is Heaven and when She goes over the river  to Heaven, she will marry her Black prince who died in the waters of the Kansas River. Its common in Christianity, a hundred years ago or so to speak of the boundary between this physical realm and heaven as a river one has to cross.
The old spirituals. were often escape codes and  it has the other meaning of escaping this world to the next  to FREEDOM!
i have not read any of the books of his biography or autobiography nor have I seen any of the films about his bio. First I don't have the money to purchase any of them. Plus, I ask does it mention Topeka Ks and if it doesn't then I know they didn't start at the beginning. I do read on line  quotes  made from them.
This not a book report; it an eye witness account and the only report is the journey unfolding each day as more of the truth is revealed. Sometimes one does need to speculate but I'm trying to be clear when its only that versus an  eye witness account.
Donna was a good one to discuss things with on line.even though she has a great dislike for the president and his politics. Truth can be found and those wanting it can be found  in many places. Might even be a Buddhist living in France who can get  gross sometimes.  Everyone is an eye witness to many things.
Any one can be misquoted so its always good to ask the person if that is what they mean to go read the original writing. Its part of the process.
So the journey for turth and Justice continues. And pray someone who knows something will share it. even if  using a 'pen name.'.
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES ARTICLE III SECTION 2 (phrase by phrase analysis)
"In all Cases  affecting Ambassadors, " US Supreme court is where one files first? Has this been changed?
Warmer weather coming. Linda Joy Adams 4/21/13